Bentleigh Secondary College boys in short school dresses

An annual tradition for year 12 students is dressing up for ‘Muck Up Day’. Some boys at Bentleigh Secondary College ran afoul of the school’s uniform regulations, by wearing summer dresses that were too short.

October 2017

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/special-features/news-in-education/bentleigh-secondary-college-boys-wearing-dresses-ordered-to-change-at-year-12-muckup-day/news-story/185e33b30248da832a7e93dfc4a82bc0

Bentleigh Secondary College boys wearing dresses ordered to change or go home at Year 12 muck-up day

Boys who wore dresses to their Year 12 muck-up day were pulled out of class and ordered to change or go home, students claim.

Yet, girls who dressed in the boys’ uniform at Bentleigh Secondary College were allowed to remain, they say.

The Herald Sun has been told up to 40 boys turned up to school in dresses for the Year 12s’ last day of classes this morning.

“In first period they collected all the boys and told them they either had to get changed or go home,” said one student, who asked not to be named.

“They could stay (at school) but they had to put shorts on underneath.”

But most of the boys did not have shorts, he said, and one boy in his class went home.

In a statement, the school said students were asked to wear shorts underneath after complaints over the length of their dresses.

However, girls who wear dresses at the school are not forced to wear shorts.

Bentleigh Secondary College principal Helene Hiotis said “not a single student has been disciplined or sent home for wearing dresses to school today”.

“A number of male students who wore dresses to school today as part of muck-up day activities were simply asked to tone down their outfits following complaints by other students,” she said.

But the teen said some students had been troubled by the message the school had sent in its ruling.

“A few kids at our school are LGBTIQ — we’re a Safe School, we’ve even got a poster of a guy wearing a dress encouraging people to wear what they’re comfortable in,” he said.

“There’s a few students disappointed in the school and a few upset about making the guys change.

“I think (the length of the dresses) as an excuse is quite poor, to be honest.”

Another student labelled the muck-up day uniform swap, where boys wear dresses and girls wear shorts, as “a year 12 tradition for their last day of classes”.

“This is an issue as Bentleigh is meant to be a progressive school and this whole ordeal have (sic) disrupted learning more than anything,” he said.

Ms Hiotis said the matter had “nothing to do with Safe Schools”.

“Bentleigh Secondary College prides itself on being a safe and inclusive environment for all its students,” she said.

Victorian Equal Opportunity and Human Rights Commissioner Kristen Hilton said anyone who felt discriminated against because of their sex, gender identity or personal characteristics could contact the Commission.

“Schools must ensure that student dress codes protect students against discrimination and uphold human rights requirements,” she said.

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Winter kilts at Matthew Flinders Girls Secondary College

The young ladies at Matthew Flinders Girls Secondary College in Geelong fall into two camps – those who want their winter kilts super long and dragging the ground, and those who want them super short and barely hiding their underwear. Teachers want them somewhere in between.

August 2006

http://www.mfgsc.vic.edu.au/documents/Information/html/DressCode.htm

The length of winter kilts should be knee to mid calf.

The length of summer dresses should be knee to mid thigh.

May 2011

http://mfgsc.vic.edu.au/news/newsletter/2011/Newsletter04.pdf

Recently parents /guardians received a text message with regard to the length of school kilts and dresses. The minimum length is to be just above the knee and the maximum length will be mid calf. All students are to ensure that their dresses or kilts adhere to these requirements.

May 2014

http://mfgsc.vic.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/23-May-2014-Uniform.pdf

The minimum length of the school dress is just above the knee – Students are also allowed to wear school navy blue shorts. The dress is to be worn with lightweight plain white or navy blue socks

The minimum length of kilts is just above the knee – Students are also allowed to wear school navy blue pants. The tilt is to be worn with plain white or navy blue socks or navy tights.

June 2014

http://mfgsc.vic.edu.au/newsletter-no-5-13th-june-2014/

A Note on the Current Uniform Kilt length: Student leaders have started to and will continue to contact parents about kilts that are too short. The correct length is somewhere between the mid-calf and just above the knee.

December 2015

http://mfgsc.vic.edu.au/documents/2015/UNIFORM_POLICY_2015.pdf

The following are not permitted:

  • Kilts that are too long will need to be shortened
  • Kilts or skirts that are too short will need to be lengthened or an appropriate new garment purchased before a student may return to school
  • Wearing of leggings and pants under school dress or skirt/kilt
  • Black, ripped or lacey tights
  • Socks worn over the top of tights – Students will be asked to remove socks

Short skirts at St Columba’s College

Girls at St Columba’s College, Essendon have been warned that short skirts are not acceptable.

June 2017

http://www.columba.vic.edu.au/news/June-16-2017-St-Columba-s-Day-Uniform-and-Attendance-

The College has noticed an increase in the number of students not wearing their uniform properly. We have also noticed that winter skirt lengths have shortened as the term has progressed and students have grown.

Can I ask that parents have a conversation with their daughter regarding uniform regulations and College expectations outlined on page 11 of the College Planner. We ask for your support and assistance in rectifying uniform issues.

September 2017

http://www.columba.vic.edu.au/news/September-01-2017-Uniform-PIN

Our aim as a College is that all students arrive in the morning in correct uniform, unfortunately, this is not always the case.

This year we have seen a marked improvement in students wearing their blazer to and from school. However, the winter skirt length is still an issue as students are rolling up their skirt to make it shorter. The winter skirt must be worn knee length. The definition of knee length is the bottom of the winter skirt reaches the knee cap when a student is standing. If your daughter’s hem has been cut previously and no longer has a hem available to lower please organise a replacement.

We ask you, as parents, to support the College in this issue. Parents are asked to contact their daughter’s House Leader if they have any concerns.

MacRob schoolgirls fret about short skirts

Summer uniform at Mac.Robertson Girls’ High School consists of a checked dress, plus a blazer and jumper. These girls have shared some tips on how long their dress should be, ways to make it shorter, and ingenious ways to prevent the boys from Melbourne High sneaking a peek under it on windy days. 😉

http://friendsatmacrob.tumblr.com/post/113766549882/hey-thanks-for-your-help-about-the-skirt-length-i

16 March 2015

Q: Hey thanks for your help about the skirt length. I guess it was only when it was windy and my skirt was blowing up that I felt was indecent as my shorts were visible. Uniform is comfortable for me but from your experiences is there anything else that could be more comfortable, eg substitutes for shorts or just anything generally that you have learnt about uniform over the years that you could pass down. Thanks so much :):) xx love your work fam

A:

Hey anon,

I totally get what you mean. I tend to wear bike shorts under my dress which come to about mid-thigh, so longer than boy shorts but can’t be seen below the hemline of the dress normally. If it’s windy and your skirt blows up but you’re wearing shorts, don’t worry about being indecent, it’s not! It’s very decent 🙂

That’s probably it, you’ll find you get used to wearing the uniform soon enough.

Love FAM

PS If anyone is reading this and thinking ‘oh no I don’t wear shorts under my dress!’ don’t worry, it’s just about what you feel comfortable with. Most girls prefer to wear shorts or something like it under their dresses because it feels more comfortable, but you don’t have to!

http://friendsatmacrob.tumblr.com/post/119021422032/in-terms-of-dresses-how-short-is-too-short

15 May 2015

Q: In terms of dresses, how short is too short?

A: Hello anon,

If you look in your school planner, there should be a section on school uniform and how to wear it. Usually the shortest you can get away with is mid-thigh (that might be cutting it a bit too fine). To be honest, girls do have their dresses way higher than that and really, if your skirt is shorter than your blazer – i think we can deem it ‘too short’.

Check out our #macrobuniform tag to see more questions on uniform: http://friendsatmacrob.tumblr.com/tagged/macrobuniform/

Love, FAM

http://friendsatmacrob.tumblr.com/post/163399994067/hey-guys-thanks-so-much-for-answering-all

25 July 2017

Q: Hey guys!!!! Thanks so much for answering all these questions for us the next gen! Just wanted to know what would you reckon is an appropriate dress/skirt length? From observation some girls wear it really short and others maybe below the knee, so what’s the “norm.” Is it ok to be a bit less conservative when we aren’t in the school environment, for example like the junior social or something? How much leg are we allowed to show and should we wear an extra layer like shorts underneath? ty! x

A: Hi love,

In terms of “proper” skirt length, the uniform guide at the front of the diary says just above the knee. Outside of the uniform though you should feel free to where you’re skirt at whatever length you feel comfortable in, whether that be longer or shorter. Wearing shorts is a good idea if you’re worried about the length being too short or the skirt flipping up (say in the wind or when sitting down), and can often make doing something more physical easier.

And we’re glad we’re helping! Thanks for sending in the nice message 🙂

Love,

FAM xx

http://friendsatmacrob.tumblr.com/post/165210846927/term-4-is-coming-up-ahh-my-summer-dress-is-sooo

11 September 2017

Q: term 4 is coming up. AHH my summer dress is sooo long and my parents won’t let me take it up. HOW CAN I SHRINK IT?!?!

A: Hi there,

You could always hemm it up yourself, or, you could iron it so it’s shorter then put safety pins to keep it there.

Hopefully this helps!

Love, FAM xx

Short skirts at Clonard College

At Clonard College in Geelong an ongoing theme is the length of summer dresses – the girls love to make them as short as possible.

Summer dress length at Clonard College

http://web.clonard.catholic.edu.au/_literature_169361/Clonard_Chronicle_-_April_5th_2014

April 2014

As students are now in a period of changing from summer to winter uniform it is important that we clarify and have very clear instructions for the girls about skirt length. Some students have already come to school in skirts that are of an inappropriate length for school.

The skirt is to be worn at knee length or below. If students are wearing the skirt either too long or too short they will need to either take up their hem or replace the uniform item. If this is the case, a demerit will be issued, parent contact will be made and a note will be made in the student’s diary by the level coordinator so teachers are aware that the issue has been dealt with. Students will have up to a week for uniform to be adjusted.

We do not apologise for the uniform expectations we have of students as we are proud of our uniform and the fact that it usually helps to build a positive reputation of our school that all of our students can benefit from. Thank you for your support on this matter.

http://web.clonard.catholic.edu.au/news-app/September-18-2015-Summer-Uniform?eid=3271509&cat=CURRICULUM

September 2015

As we begin Term 4 you may notice that over the Winter period your daughter has grown and her dress length is no longer appropriate.

It may be time to alter the hem-length or purchase another dress from Bellarine Uniforms or the Clonard College Second-hand Uniform Shop.

Summer dresses should be worn ‘to the knee’, not mid-thigh as some students have worn their dresses on the last few warm days that we have had.

Students will be issued with a demerit if their dress length is determined to be of an inappropriate length.

Below is an example of summer dresses that are too short.

This how the summer dress should be worn.